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There was a Plymouth Brethren meeting room, initially with the Darbyites, and after 1909, informally, with the Tunbridge Wells branch of the so-called Exclusive Brethren, in Talmage, Kansas from around 1905 thru 1933. One of the correspondents, [[Judson Alden Sr.]] (1835-1923) is credited as such from 1908 until his death. The first correspondents are listed as G.W. Miller, and J.T. Moore, in 1905, see the correspondent section for a fuller list.
It can be presumed that the Talmage meeting was started around 1894, with Judson Alden and Alexander Martin as correspondents, in [[Manchester Meeting Room, KS|Manchester]], of which, they ceased to meet in Manchester by 1903, and thus moved in 1904-1905 to Talmage. Judson's widow, Laura, and their daughter Grace were the final correspondents in 1933, with none listed by 1944, with the next volume of contacts. Grace then served as sole correspondent for a preaching point at [[Abilene Meeting Room, KS|Abilene]], from at least 1944 thru 1973, as the other area assemblies had closed by that point. There was also a similar meeting 1889-1933 in [[Chapman Meeting Room, KS|Chapman]].
It is remembered by a descendant, Bonnie Botz Elliott (b. 1927), that as a small child, her grandparents, Philip Peter Botz (1859-1934) and Gertrude Alden Botz (1870-1949) hosted a regular home meeting in their home in Manchester, that neighbors may have attended. Gertrude was the 2nd to eldest daughter of Judson and his first wife Harriet.
Philip was born in Brussels, Ontario, Canada. Philip and Gertrude's daughter-in-law, May Jury Botz's family was also involved in a similar type meeting at the Newbern church, a split from nearby [[Grace and Truth Gospel Chapel, KS|Grace and Truth Gospel Hall]], an Open Brethren branch that existed from before 1918 to 2010, later known as the Gospel Chapel, of which hived a similar type Brethren meeting in Elm Springs from 1938-1977, as well as bible studies in Salina in the 1960's that resulted in [[Sunset Bible Chapel, KS|Sunset Bible Chapel]], which still exists to this day.
==Correspondents==
===Manchester===
* 1894: [[Judson Alden Sr.]] (1835-1923)
* 1894-1903: [[Alexander Henry Martin Sr.]] (1850-1935)
* 1901-1903: A.H. Seymour
* 1903: George William Miller (1825-1908)
===Manchester/Talmage transition===
* 1903-1911: J.T. Moore
===Talmage===
* 1908-1923: [[Judson Alden Sr.]] (1835-1923)
* 1908-1911: George Wate Brown (1879-1959)
* 1927-1933: Laura M. Bowker Alden, aka Mrs. Judson Alden Sr.
* 1933: Miss Grace Alden
===Abilene===
* 1944-1973: Miss Grace Alden
==Sidenote==
The author of this history, [http://www.facebook.com/dougengle Doug Engle] entered into a personal relationship with his Lord Jesus, thanks to clear testimony of those at Grace and Truth (connected to the subject church of this history thru similar founders dating back to 1826), some of which the former leadership of such has served in similar respects in Abilene area churches including New Trail Fellowship, Community Bible Church, Mt. Pleasant Presbyterian, Bible Baptist Church, Lifehouse Church, Emmanuel Methodist, First United Methodist, Zion Brethren in Christ, The Lord's Chapel, and many other respected gatherings, and are known widely for sterling character.
It can be presumed that the Talmage meeting was started around 1894, with Judson Alden and Alexander Martin as correspondents, in [[Manchester Meeting Room, KS|Manchester]], of which, they ceased to meet in Manchester by 1903, and thus moved in 1904-1905 to Talmage. Judson's widow, Laura, and their daughter Grace were the final correspondents in 1933, with none listed by 1944, with the next volume of contacts. Grace then served as sole correspondent for a preaching point at [[Abilene Meeting Room, KS|Abilene]], from at least 1944 thru 1973, as the other area assemblies had closed by that point. There was also a similar meeting 1889-1933 in [[Chapman Meeting Room, KS|Chapman]].
It is remembered by a descendant, Bonnie Botz Elliott (b. 1927), that as a small child, her grandparents, Philip Peter Botz (1859-1934) and Gertrude Alden Botz (1870-1949) hosted a regular home meeting in their home in Manchester, that neighbors may have attended. Gertrude was the 2nd to eldest daughter of Judson and his first wife Harriet.
Philip was born in Brussels, Ontario, Canada. Philip and Gertrude's daughter-in-law, May Jury Botz's family was also involved in a similar type meeting at the Newbern church, a split from nearby [[Grace and Truth Gospel Chapel, KS|Grace and Truth Gospel Hall]], an Open Brethren branch that existed from before 1918 to 2010, later known as the Gospel Chapel, of which hived a similar type Brethren meeting in Elm Springs from 1938-1977, as well as bible studies in Salina in the 1960's that resulted in [[Sunset Bible Chapel, KS|Sunset Bible Chapel]], which still exists to this day.
==Correspondents==
===Manchester===
* 1894: [[Judson Alden Sr.]] (1835-1923)
* 1894-1903: [[Alexander Henry Martin Sr.]] (1850-1935)
* 1901-1903: A.H. Seymour
* 1903: George William Miller (1825-1908)
===Manchester/Talmage transition===
* 1903-1911: J.T. Moore
===Talmage===
* 1908-1923: [[Judson Alden Sr.]] (1835-1923)
* 1908-1911: George Wate Brown (1879-1959)
* 1927-1933: Laura M. Bowker Alden, aka Mrs. Judson Alden Sr.
* 1933: Miss Grace Alden
===Abilene===
* 1944-1973: Miss Grace Alden
==Sidenote==
The author of this history, [http://www.facebook.com/dougengle Doug Engle] entered into a personal relationship with his Lord Jesus, thanks to clear testimony of those at Grace and Truth (connected to the subject church of this history thru similar founders dating back to 1826), some of which the former leadership of such has served in similar respects in Abilene area churches including New Trail Fellowship, Community Bible Church, Mt. Pleasant Presbyterian, Bible Baptist Church, Lifehouse Church, Emmanuel Methodist, First United Methodist, Zion Brethren in Christ, The Lord's Chapel, and many other respected gatherings, and are known widely for sterling character.
